# Cloud complains that agents need update

**URL:** <https://community.netdata.cloud/t/cloud-complains-that-agents-need-update/1733>\
**Category:** Help\
**Tags:** cloud\
**Created:** [September 16, 2021, 6:33am UTC](https://community.netdata.cloud/t/cloud-complains-that-agents-need-update/1733 "2021-09-16T06:33:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![idet2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@idet2](https://community.netdata.cloud/u/idet2)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 6:33am UTC](https://community.netdata.cloud/t/cloud-complains-that-agents-need-update/1733/1 "2021-09-16T06:33:21Z")

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## Problem/Question

Hi,

from time to time cloud is complaining that my agents need to be updated to a version newer than v.1.26 when I have already installed v.1.31.

The solution to the problem is to restart the “netdata” daemon but should this be happening in the first place?

## Environment/Browser

I have to say here that I am on stable release and not on nightly.  
I am also using the NextGeneration (NG) ACLK.

Here is the output from Netdata-Updater

> **Updater**
>
> # ./netdata-updater  
> Checking if a newer version of the updater script is available.  
> Downloading newest version of updater script.  
> Thu Sep 16 09:14:35 EEST 2021 : INFO: Running on a terminal - (this script also supports running headless from crontab)  
> Thu Sep 16 09:14:35 EEST 2021 : INFO: Current Version: 00103100000000  
> Thu Sep 16 09:14:35 EEST 2021 : INFO: Latest Version: 00103100000000  
> Thu Sep 16 09:14:35 EEST 2021 : INFO: Newest version (current=00103100000000 \>= latest=00103100000000) is already installed

and here is the buildinfo:

> **BuildInfo**
>
> # netdata -W buildinfo  
> Version: netdata v1.31.0  
> Configure options: ‘–prefix=/usr’ ‘–sysconfdir=/etc’ ‘–localstatedir=/var’ ‘–libexecdir=/usr/libexec’ ‘–libdir=/usr/lib’ ‘–with-zlib’ ‘–with-math’ ‘–with-user=netdata’ ‘–with-aclk-ng’ ‘CFLAGS=-O2’ ‘LDFLAGS=’  
> Features:  
> dbengine: YES  
> Native HTTPS: YES  
> Netdata Cloud: YES  
> Cloud Implementation: Next Generation  
> TLS Host Verification: YES  
> Libraries:  
> jemalloc: NO  
> JSON-C: YES  
> libcap: NO  
> libcrypto: YES  
> libm: YES  
> tcalloc: NO  
> zlib: YES  
> Plugins:  
> apps: YES  
> cgroup Network Tracking: YES  
> CUPS: NO  
> EBPF: YES  
> IPMI: NO  
> NFACCT: NO  
> perf: YES  
> slabinfo: YES  
> Xen: NO  
> Xen VBD Error Tracking: NO  
> Exporters:  
> AWS Kinesis: NO  
> GCP PubSub: NO  
> MongoDB: NO  
> Prometheus Remote Write: NO

## What I expected to happen

I was not expecting to see an error/warning like this and that “netadata” daemon would not need to be restarted every now and then.

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**Author:** ![Christopher\_Akritid1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/community.netdata.cloud/christopher_akritid1/32/419_2.png) [@Christopher\_Akritid1](https://community.netdata.cloud/u/Christopher_Akritid1)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 2:45pm UTC](https://community.netdata.cloud/t/cloud-complains-that-agents-need-update/1733/2 "2021-09-16T14:45:32Z")

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We saw last week that occasionally the cloud doesn’t receive the node “info” upon connection and I suspect this may be one of the effects.

The following is from the list of the nodes we have in the space that monitors our own infra. It’s ok that they’re both unreachable, they are old instances. But the question is why one says needs update and the other one doesn’t.

![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/netdata2/original/2X/e/e69e98b45f7bdd0b5f2c85bde9f432429131bbdb.png)

As I said, I suspected node info, so I ran the following in BQ:

```auto
SELECT * from `netdata-analytics-bi.cloud_prod.node_nodes_info_latest` where node_id in (
  SELECT id FROM `netdata-analytics-bi.cloud_prod.node_nodes_latest` 
  WHERE name in ("gke-production-main-ce0f778a-mj08","gke-production-main-ce0f778a-mb0c")
)

```

But I got proper node info results for both of them from the DB. We should check cockroachDB as well, to be sure.

I then suspected that we may be caching something on the browser. Wiped out everything, logged in again and got the same thing. The BE responses to the nodes call are big and I don’t know enough to check them, so someone will look further into what’s happening.

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**Author:** ![idet2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@idet2](https://community.netdata.cloud/u/idet2)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 6:33am UTC](https://community.netdata.cloud/t/cloud-complains-that-agents-need-update/1733/3 "2021-09-17T06:33:31Z")

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> [@Christopher\_Akritid1](#):
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> someone will look further into what’s happening.

Great! Thanks for the feedback!

Will wait for an update. Let me know if you need anything from my side

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**Author:** ![Christopher\_Akritid1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/community.netdata.cloud/christopher_akritid1/32/419_2.png) [@Christopher\_Akritid1](https://community.netdata.cloud/u/Christopher_Akritid1)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 12:27pm UTC](https://community.netdata.cloud/t/cloud-complains-that-agents-need-update/1733/4 "2021-09-22T12:27:24Z")

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Can you provide the first and last part of one of a couple of your nodes’ ids, which can be seen on the URL of the single node screen? (I really doubt the full id can be used for anything sinister, but better safe than sorry).

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/netdata2/original/2X/c/c174e43c74e272522ac08de378e05644080afd80.png)

So in this case, I’d need `83d60d5a-%-590e21cf2fc5`

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**Author:** ![idet2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@idet2](https://community.netdata.cloud/u/idet2)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 7:30pm UTC](https://community.netdata.cloud/t/cloud-complains-that-agents-need-update/1733/5 "2021-09-22T19:30:59Z")

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Hi @Christopher_Akritid1,

here are two of them:

d6096841-%-c24f0106383b  
038d7006-%-f2a9b2f4b74c

which were the ones that had issues last time.

I have to say here that since the last time I have restarted the service at the nodes is still OK but do not know when they will fail again.

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**Author:** ![Christopher\_Akritid1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/community.netdata.cloud/christopher_akritid1/32/419_2.png) [@Christopher\_Akritid1](https://community.netdata.cloud/u/Christopher_Akritid1)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 1:13pm UTC](https://community.netdata.cloud/t/cloud-complains-that-agents-need-update/1733/6 "2021-09-27T13:13:13Z")

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We believe we identified the root cause in how we handle missing version information, that can happen in some cases. We’ll get it fixed very soon.

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**Author:** ![idet2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@idet2](https://community.netdata.cloud/u/idet2)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 6:12pm UTC](https://community.netdata.cloud/t/cloud-complains-that-agents-need-update/1733/7 "2021-09-27T18:12:38Z")

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Excellent!

Thank you!!!

Just let us know when it’s actually fixed in order to keep an eye if it appears again in the future.

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**Author:** ![novykh](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/community.netdata.cloud/novykh/32/829_2.png) [@novykh](https://community.netdata.cloud/u/novykh)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 8:13am UTC](https://community.netdata.cloud/t/cloud-complains-that-agents-need-update/1733/8 "2021-09-29T08:13:04Z")

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Hello, just deployed a hotfix for this. Thank you for reporting it.

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**Author:** ![idet2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@idet2](https://community.netdata.cloud/u/idet2)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 6:21am UTC](https://community.netdata.cloud/t/cloud-complains-that-agents-need-update/1733/9 "2021-10-03T06:21:02Z")

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Thanks for the update @novykh .

Enjoy your weekend!!
